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Adam
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:51:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santander will sponsor McLAren at the same time than Ferrari.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78640

This bank is on its way to become the biggest one in the world, if we discount the fake ones from China who are practically state owned.

It's a wise movement since I guess Hamilton show up everywhere in the Santander/Abby banks from UK.

So it seems half ALonso will be at McLaren (Martin Whitmarsh said that Alonso leaving was a big loss) and half Alonso in Ferrari. Laughing At least the speculations now should become more funny.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 16:24:07    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

nimue wrote:
icegirljenni wrote:
Canada confirms 2010 calendar slot

So we got a track that people will visit, is a good track , better than a few tracks available in the race calendar.


Ahem... and may I say.... HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BABY! Embarassed Laughing


Very good news indeed - I enjoyed the Canadian GP and will definitely be back - not next year though !!! I'm off to Spa then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 00:01:57    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Adam wrote:
So it seems half ALonso will be at McLaren (Martin Whitmarsh said that Alonso leaving was a big loss) and half Alonso in Ferrari. Laughing At least the speculations now should become more funny.

I was thinking the same thing Adam - now where are all of the "Alonso to replace Hamilton" rumours? Laughing

Cool that you're coming to Spa next year too Ann! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:44:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy sweet crap... I guess I should have seen this coming... http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78668

Briatore and Symonds leave Renault

Renault has announced that team boss Flavio Briatore and engineering chief Pat Symonds have parted company with the team and that it will "not dispute" the allegations of race-fixing when it appears before the World Motor Sport Council next week.

The team had been accused of asking driver Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately during last year's Singapore Grand Prix in order to cause a safety car period that would work to his team-mate Fernando Alonso's advantage. The Spaniard went on to win the race.

"The ING Renault F1 Team will not dispute the recent allegations made by the FIA concerning the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix," said a statement from the team.

"It also wishes to state that its managing director, Flavio Briatore and its executive director of engineering, Pat Symonds, have left the team.

"Before attending the hearing before the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on 21 September 2009, the team will not make any further comment."

Shortly before losing his drive with Renault, Piquet approached the FIA with the allegation that Briatore and Symonds had asked him to cause a deliberate accident that would bring out the safety car in Singapore, and that his heavy crash on lap 14 of the race had therefore been pre-planned.

Alonso - who had been a contender for pole until a qualifying fuel pump failure left him only 15th on the grid - had made a very early pitstop just before the caution caused by Piquet's crash and duly vaulted to the front of the field, from where he delivered Renault's first victory of a difficult season.

FIA investigators quizzed Briatore, Symonds and other team members over the incident during the Belgian GP weekend, and subsequently announced that the team would face a World Motor Sport Council hearing in Paris on 21 September.

Evidence, including Piquet's statement, telemetry details and radio transmissions, was leaked to the media during last weekend's Monza event, which also saw Renault announce that it would take legal action against Piquet and his triple world champion father Nelson, accusing both of blackmail.

The saga then took another twist when it emerged that the FIA had offered Symonds immunity at the hearing in exchange for full disclosure of the facts surrounding the Singapore incident.

As the Renault team - rather than Briatore and Symonds themselves - has been charged over the allegations, today's announcement by the team is unlikely to have any bearing on next week's hearing.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:50:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard that Prost will take over Flavio position.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:47:08    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Now the question is whether Alonso knew or not. Because if he knew, wow, it's bad thing for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:55:02    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Bosseking wrote:
Now the question is whether Alonso knew or not. Because if he knew, wow, it's bad thing for him.


FIA already said that Alonso didn't know, they said that all sources and proofs supported that. It was said days ago.

In addition, I don't know if you guys remember that when the race finished Alonso was sit right before leaving to the podium and said to Briatore and the cameras "The safety car!". I doubd if he knew he would have said that, Alonso is not stupid.

Prost is also a big fan of Alonso, and I think he's clean. Maybe it's what the team needed with or without this crisis.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:58:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/09/955350

Short translating of JJs opinion about what Alonsos part of this scandal.


Jyrki Järvilehto: Alonso knew, certainly!

MTV3 F1 expert JJ Lehto is confident that the number one driver Fernando Alonso could not have been unaware of the Renault team's plan to smash last year's Singapore GP.

Alonso rose from 15 from square one winner of the competition, the team Accommodation Nelson Piquet Junior's exit brought the safety car line at an appropriate time. Piquet has said that it had commanded by team to collision.

- If you're around the team, and the number one team, the Mighty, so I do not believe that no issue would remain unaware. Certainly, we tell you all what happens there. I think that Alonso is certainly aware of that situation, Lehto said.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 13:49:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Järvilehto said that Alonso knew for sure.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/09/955350

This is fast drop from hero to zero for Briatore. And I like it!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 14:07:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

REVEALED: The full FIA dossier of evidence against Renault going before the Nelson Piquet Jnr 'crash-gate' hearing

you can click on the link if you wish to read all the FIA evidence. It is very interesting read.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 14:23:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now everyone knows where Nelson Piquet Jr. lives, it's written in a few of those documents Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 14:49:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Yeah, but what on earth would you do with it? Raid his house? Rolling Eyes Laughing

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It being impractical to reconvene the Stewards of the 2008 Singapore Grand prix...


Just wondering, what do they mean by that?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:11:40    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Riku Rotten wrote:
Järvilehto said that Alonso knew for sure.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/09/955350

This is fast drop from hero to zero for Briatore. And I like it!


Well, just like Nelson senior, this guy is just throwing assumptions.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:21:25    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Julzie wrote:
So now everyone knows where Nelson Piquet Jr. lives, it's written in a few of those documents Laughing


I'll send him a card! Smile

They should have blurred that part.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:28:04    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Arkkis wrote:
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/09/955350

Short translating of JJs opinion about what Alonsos part of this scandal.


Jyrki Järvilehto: Alonso knew, certainly!

MTV3 F1 expert JJ Lehto is confident that the number one driver Fernando Alonso could not have been unaware of the Renault team's plan to smash last year's Singapore GP.

Alonso rose from 15 from square one winner of the competition, the team Accommodation Nelson Piquet Junior's exit brought the safety car line at an appropriate time. Piquet has said that it had commanded by team to collision.

- If you're around the team, and the number one team, the Mighty, so I do not believe that no issue would remain unaware. Certainly, we tell you all what happens there. I think that Alonso is certainly aware of that situation, Lehto said.



And where are the proofs and evidences to back up that opinion you have, JJ Lehto? Assumptions?

If Alonso had known he would not have commented in the podium "hey, the safety car".

Nah, there are people who has affection or feel sorry for the Piquets, just that. They just assume things, with IFS and CERTAINLYs
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:33:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

This could be expected. Of course Renault will rather fire him than get banned or face other grave punishment. Which by the way they might still get, if Symonds and Briatore weren't alone in this.

Good bye Briatore, and good riddance. First Max, now you. When will Bernie go?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 15:42:58    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Lady Fëanor wrote:
When will Bernie go?


When he starts having health problems. F1 is his enterprise, he gave preference to F1 over anything else in his life (we know that his wife left him), so I doubd he'll leave by himself. I think we have Bernie for 10 or 15 years more.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 16:01:03    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

icegirljenni wrote:
REVEALED: The full FIA dossier of evidence against Renault going before the Nelson Piquet Jnr 'crash-gate' hearing

you can click on the link if you wish to read all the FIA evidence. It is very interesting read.


Interesting..hmmm..
angeliwink wrote:
Julzie wrote:
So now everyone knows where Nelson Piquet Jr. lives, it's written in a few of those documents

I'll send him a card!

They should have blurred that part.


+1 Very Happy so true
edit : ahahahaha 'when he has health problems' ahahahah
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 18:54:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39027

The FIA's latest victims... Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 19:44:25    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

racingreen17 wrote:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39027

The FIA's latest victims... Sad


There needs to be more heads. Laughing I could name some...
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